Surely?

Oh and $4m a month?! That's a whole-lotta smut!

Perfect10 tries to sue Usenet. Oops, I'd better not say that, the fool will go looking for someone to take to court. Surely the rule is, never sue anyone with more lawyers than you?

I can understand some business being lost to image piracy, but $4 million per month?!

Either I'm in the wrong (part of the) business or this is yet another example of creative accounting as made famous by the MPAA and RIAA in recent years.

"Surely the rule is, never sue anyone with more lawyers than you?"

Surely never sue anyone with SMARTer lawyers than you, would do IT Better. Which refines right down to never sue anyone without SMARTer Connections. ...... a Teutonic Bond.

If they were pulling 4m/month with their print mag (which I'm gathering is what they're saying they stopped publishing?) they could argue they're losing that revenue.

And it wouldn't surprise me in the least if a print pr0n mag went under these days.

But I'd be surprised if it was because all their punters were finding *Perfect 10*'s images online. They're going out of business because there's a lot of *general* free pr0n, not because there's a lot of *specific* Perfect 10 pr0n.

Anyone have any clue the kind of dollars they are actually spending on their lawsuits? Because we get articles on them every couple of months and that kind of advertising would normally be insanely expensive. I keep finding myself wondering if its a sort of alternative advertising budget. Win lose or draw they are getting regular exposure.

They still make those?

yes actually they do playboy and hustler. but I buy the playboys for the articles only ;-). I get the goods at playboy.com. but seriously they showed this guy that owns this company on some tv show once. He's got some home up in the hills of LA and frisky 18 to 21 year olds running around and he doesn't seem to be hurting to bad. this guy really needs to just shut up. I don't see hef or flint moaning about all of the playboy or hustler pics being used illegally. take what you got and go home...

Ok, I have seen the word used here and there but I cannot come to grips with what it means and it has piqued my interest. What is the definition a punter?

In America it is somebody who kicks balls for a living....

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=punter

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see a difference here between the lawsuits by Perfect 10 and the ones brought against the filesharing software companies by the RIAA and MPAA. Software found to encourage copyright infringement has been systematically eliminated through lawsuits, as have sites that provide emule or other filesharing links. Yet Microsoft and Google can in essence do the same thing with thier search engines and get away clean... This is purely an observation, not supporting either side.

Just another example of the US courts continuing to contradict themselves. Either encouraging copyright infringement through some means is illegal, or it isn't. Make up your minds!

"He's got some home up in the hills of LA"

It you can't make money from naked women and lustful men then you can't make money. At the very least you would expect their website to look current, to have some indication that it is updated; the front page has a copyright date of 2007, but the tour is copyright 2005, and it is constrained in a tiny little old-fashioned window. It looks like a moribund archive site. If it wasn't for a steady stream of lawsuits anyone would think it had gone bust.

Bust, hahaha. That's a pun. "Bust".

It's a magazine full of topless women. "Bust"? Surely you must get it. Bust. Bust.

Bust.

Shouldn't they be suing the sites that are posting the ripped off images?

$4M a month? There are sites that make over $4M a week. It's been claimed that the "adult entertainment" industry makes more on the net than the rest of the net put together. I find that kind of hard to believe, but I don't find it hard to believe that it's the leading money maker.

Google links to content on a genuine site (Belgian newspapers) and loses legal action, but links to illegal content and wins?

Also, they wouldn't be the first adult site to take action against Usenet.

"I don't see hef or flint moaning about all of the playboy or hustler pics being used illegally"

Actually I think you'll find that Playboy are very big on protecting their pics, and chasing/suing people who publish their images online. Maybe old Heff just has much better lawyers, so most big sites just don't take the chance.