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Comments on: Hungarians unleash dog bark translator

Gary Larson was first... 

Posted Wednesday 16th January 2008 14:30 GMT

...His dog translator worked perfectly - all the dogs were running around saying "Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!"

Reminds me of one I heard a while back 

Posted Wednesday 16th January 2008 14:33 GMT

So this dog goes into a Post Office (Well, we have to assume he finds one of the few left) and asks to send a telegram.

"What you you want to say?" asks the clerk.

"Woof, Woof, Woof, Woof, Woof, Wooooooof, Woof, " says the dog

"Do you realise you could send five more words for the same money?" asks the clerk.

"Yes," replies the dog, but it'd make bugger all sense."

Coat going on even as you groan

How do they know? 

Posted Wednesday 16th January 2008 14:48 GMT

Alien

If mere people can only judge the canine emotional state correctly 40% of the time then who - or what - was able to determine that the software got it right 43% of the time?

There's clearly a Dr Who angle in there somewhere...

@David Greaves 

Posted Wednesday 16th January 2008 15:09 GMT

I'd assume that the dog's bark was recorded, and then played back without the video.

You were supposed to tell whether the dog was pining for the fjords (on its own), or really happy (fighting).

Not perfect (the dog on its own could be happy that they've got some peace and quiet finally), but good enough for this sort of science*.

scientists? 

Posted Wednesday 16th January 2008 15:20 GMT

How can these people be called scientists?

As mentioned by David Greaves they could not quantify their results effectively, and the stats are questionable.

I'd like to see clear quantifiable evidence, where humans get it right 100% of the time (at this point the porcine flying league should be well into its 3rd year) as a benchmark.

English version 

Posted Wednesday 16th January 2008 15:34 GMT

Coat

Is there any word on whether the english language version will include "My hovercraft is full of eels"?

I always thought 

Posted Wednesday 16th January 2008 15:51 GMT

Coat

... The Hungarians were barking.

Coat on, door open.

There's more I'm afraid 

Posted Wednesday 16th January 2008 16:27 GMT

Coat

Sigh. I can't resist this.

They're barking mad.

They're barking up the wrong tree.

I'm getting my coat on now.

Dogs 

Posted Wednesday 16th January 2008 17:37 GMT

Paris Hilton

My experience of dogs isn't great, but 99% of the time they seem to be saying "can I have some food?"

(PH icon because she likes to eat meat too, or so I've been told...)

@Robert Ramsay and Joe 

Posted Wednesday 16th January 2008 20:08 GMT

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See also the famous Far Side cartoon "What we say to our dogs .... What they think we're saying". (What they think we're saying turns out to be, more or less, "blah blah blah blah ROVER blah blah blah blah ROVER blah blah blah blah ROVER blah"!)

Bowlingual demonstration 

Posted Wednesday 16th January 2008 20:28 GMT

We were party to a bow-lingual demonstration at the Ig Nobel event (www.improbable.com) in London, part of national science week, a few years ago. A suitable canine participant was brought in and persuaded to take part in the demonstration. The device reported 'I want to help' as the translated bark.

Among other things discussed at the event were farting fish, necrophilia in mallard ducks, and the effect of country music on suicide rates. (Plug: free tickets for the 2008 events are available shortly)

Don't remember who said this one. 

Posted Wednesday 16th January 2008 20:34 GMT

Coat

If dogs could talk, the first thing they'd say is "You know, vomit isn't half bad"

Deserves more study. 

Posted Wednesday 16th January 2008 22:35 GMT

Coat

It should be doggedly pursued.

My experience... 

Posted Thursday 17th January 2008 00:14 GMT

I wonder if it would properly translate the barks that my dog emitted while he attempted to cool down his food. Believe it or not, he thought they worked! We (well most of us) know that not barking would have produced the same result.

Patience is a virtue!

Original Far Side cartoon 

Posted Thursday 17th January 2008 00:47 GMT

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Go to http://healingmagichands.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/some-favorite-cartoons/1019/ to see the original cartoon.

They are just gunning for an ... 

Posted Thursday 17th January 2008 07:57 GMT

IgNobel Prize.

Incidentally, if any intelligent dog learnt to talk he would say "Woof", "Bark", or "Whine" (following Gaspode) to avoid humans from finding out.

Throw me a frickin' bone here 

Posted Thursday 17th January 2008 11:17 GMT

Boffin

- from Dr Evil, Austin Powers.

Anyway, why would I need a dog translator?

If somebody knocks at the door, dogs always make the same barking noise;

'Boo woo woo? Woo woo woof!'

If they are begging for something, it is easy to tell because of the way they jump up onto their hind legs and whine;

'Hgggrrrmmmm? Hmmm?'

If they want to play, they make as if to run away or they attack your feet and bark at you and wag their tails;

'Whaf!'

See?

Woof 

Posted Thursday 17th January 2008 12:12 GMT

Boffin

I forgot to mention that the sound of the door barking woof can be a bit different according to size.

A big dog would woof in the way I described, whereas a smaller dog might bark;

"Waur waur waurrgh? Waur waur waurgh!"

Means the same thing though.

@ Karl Lattimer 

Posted Monday 21st January 2008 13:27 GMT

I can't find any articles about this that don't source the Daily Mail, however, by the sounds of it the researchers recorded the responses of the dogs in different situations, then created a programme that, 43% of the time, would correctly give the answer, eg, "the dog that barked just then, he'd just seen a ball", and the human could guess what situation the dog was in 40% of the time.

So, they could easily verify the results the software was giving them, either the dog had just seen a ball, or it hadn't.

Scientific? yes.

Worthwhile? Hmmmm.