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Comments on: VMware vuln exposes the perils of virtualization

Of course... 

Posted Monday 25th February 2008 22:48 GMT

One could always use VirtualBox instead of VMware.

http://www.virtualbox.org/

I am not connected with the project in any way.

And if VMware file sharing is disabled...? 

Posted Monday 25th February 2008 22:55 GMT

Paris Hilton

If VMware file sharing is disabled, which of course sensible people would do when running untrusted (or worse) software as the guest OS, does this exploit still succeed? Hopefully not, though afaict the article doesn't say either way. Anyway if it does become safe, the article title maybe ought to be "VMware vuln exposes the perils of being dumb".

Paris isn't dumb but she may be vulnerable. Or is that the other way round, I forget.

No security expert worth their salt 

Posted Monday 25th February 2008 23:19 GMT

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Would share files from a sandbox to their host PC. Sad to see that VMware has this vulnerability though - hope to see it patched soon!

More and more VMware security bugs 

Posted Monday 25th February 2008 23:23 GMT

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As a very large VMware who has invested more than a few quid in VMware products (both desktop and server), the bloody bloom is off the rose. VMware security bugs are commonplace and the quality of their products has taken a major downturn since VI3. Version 3.0 was released about six months too early and after some proper testing, 3.0.2 was released as an apology.

It's time to right the ship gents.

What VERSION of VMware Workstation? 

Posted Tuesday 26th February 2008 03:23 GMT

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Is the Linux version of Workstation vulnerable to this bug? The bulletin from Core doesn't go into details on what OS version or what release version of VM Workstation is affected.

Is it just me..? 

Posted Tuesday 26th February 2008 07:32 GMT

Coat

Or has no-one else notice Core's CTO's name? Best name ever or just stating the bleeding obvious?

@Anonymous Coward 

Posted Tuesday 26th February 2008 07:58 GMT

Alert

If you read the end of the article, I think you will find your question answered...

@El Mono Grande: As with all security bugs, it is safe to assume that all versions up to and including the most recent one, for all OSs, are affected.

Back to the future... 

Posted Tuesday 26th February 2008 08:56 GMT

Unhappy

"method for dividing a PC's resources into separate environments that - in theory, at least - can't be altered by other environments."

According to that definition, ALL operating systems SHOULD count as VM hosts out-of-the-box. In theory, all processes should be completely isolated from all others, except for a select few carefully-defined comms channels, with effective access controls placed everywhere.

Of course, that's where reality raises its ugly head. But sloppy design, compromises in the name of performance, and backwards-compatibility with previous sloppy designs take their toll. User convenience causes the controls to be relaxed and the allowed channels to proliferate. And that's before we even start talking about actual bugs...

So now we implement virtual machines to restore the security that our OS's couldn't deliver. Except that our VMs suffer from user convenience demands, sloppy design, performance compromises, backwards compatibility, and bugs.

Let's just give it up and move back to the abacus...

Only to be expected. 

Posted Tuesday 26th February 2008 08:58 GMT

Since VMware is just another piece of software, then bugs like this should be expected -- much like leaks discovered in Java's sandbox. If you can code something, chances are someone else can code around it, given enough time.

@Calum Morrison 

Posted Tuesday 26th February 2008 09:26 GMT

Thanks for the heads up. I misread it first time! Brilliant!

"Core's CTO Ivan Arce" 

Posted Tuesday 26th February 2008 09:55 GMT

Happy

C'mon, _really_? That's gotta be an early April 1!

A month of.... 

Posted Tuesday 26th February 2008 10:15 GMT

Black Helicopters

I'd start with VMWare tools - which supplies amongst other things a screen driver. Then there's the VNC back door, the sound card, the USB passthrough....

And he really really really is called that:

http://www.coresecurity.com/?module=ContentMod&action=item&id=47#ivan

looks like the register effect has struck again 

Posted Tuesday 26th February 2008 10:44 GMT

seems ivan arce is just too much for people to ignore and they've followed the link killing core's website...

the reg effect!

Another slant on the story 

Posted Tuesday 26th February 2008 12:04 GMT

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/171459/real-risk-for-vmware-users.html

Easy fix 

Posted Tuesday 26th February 2008 12:29 GMT

Run your VMWare within a Virtual PC...

It's true! 

Posted Tuesday 26th February 2008 13:38 GMT

Happy

He really is called Ivan Arce. Look!

http://www.coresecurity.com/?module=ContentMod&action=item&id=47

Best ever Register story

MIght also affect Vitual Box 

Posted Tuesday 26th February 2008 17:41 GMT

Greetings,

As Morely Dotes noted you could use Virtual Box. Problem be it also has a shared folder function and is probably affected by this exploit.

The difference is it is not set up by default. Look in the user manual, section 4.4 for more info on enabling shared folders between host and guest.

Or be a little safer and leave it disabled when exploring malware.

Is Privilege Escalation Involved? 

Posted Friday 29th February 2008 00:10 GMT

Pirate

As far as I can see from the linked article this is just a directory traversal issue. This means that the underlying OS is only as vulnerable as permitted by the account running the virtual machine - not an immediately pwned situation if you run the vm as a limited (i.e. non-admin) user.

If you run a vm without any security then you risk having your host disk read and broadcast on the internet (and incriminating evidence planted on it too.)