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A little too dull 

Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 15:25 GMT

Apple is partly correct to make pro applications a little less distracting. But I agree, the font sizes are too hard on the eyes in places. Especially Logic Studio when running on a 22 inch widescreen (I'd hate to run 24-inch iMac resolutions!).

There is a reason... 

Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 15:53 GMT

Jobs Halo

Don't forget that they are all that shade of grey for a damn good reason - its so that you can colour match or grade footage against a neutral background!

If you go into a professional grading suite in a Post production facility its the same colour grey..

I wouldn't be very happy to receive some footage that had been worked on against an aqua background...

Font size too small in pro apps!... 

Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 16:08 GMT

I'll give anybody 100 quid who will help me resize the fonts in Logic Pro independently of the graphics.

It's diabolical that Apple force such small fonts on their pro-consumers.

I have a 30" LCD and I want to be able to set my minimum font as 18 points system wide.

Geddit?!?! But Apple don't...

Cheers Daniel

Font size 

Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 18:18 GMT

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who's frustrated by the tiny font! I've only used Logic on my 17" screen. I had previously wondered how users with larger monitors fared, and I thought that maybe the font scaled up automatically with increasing screen resolution. I gather from the comments that it doesn't!

I'm with AC on this. 

Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 18:50 GMT

The reason they're a "drab" gray colour is exactly as explained - to remain neutral when doing critical colour correction work.

Totally agree with Danial Harris too, the fonts in Aperture are far too small.

Resolution Independence 

Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 20:09 GMT

Coat

That was a very interesting article. I've not dug about in XCode before, it's been sitting on my system a long time 'cos I use Quartz Composer for some nice 3D stuff I do with live music...

To Daniel Harris, I think you won't have to wait too long to get what you want. Apple have been developing "resolution independence" for a while now, I think it's due in Snow Leopard, so your tiny fonts should look the same (hopefully not too tiny) on any monitor! Other things like the menu bar should take up precisely the same amount of space (e.g 1cm or whatever) rather than a proportion of the screen (1% of whatever resolution)... I think?

(correct me if I'm wrong!)

Mines the one with the ruler in the pocket, and no I'm not that excited to see you...!

fiddle de dum de do. 

Posted Tuesday 19th August 2008 20:18 GMT

I don't know why, I just sorta hoped this would be a link to an application to make aperture slightly more usable.

Ho hum.

200 quid! Join me in the pledge fund! 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 06:56 GMT

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Rob McDougall said: "Other things like the menu bar should take up precisely the same amount of space... (correct me if I'm wrong!)"

Sorry, you are wrong resolution independence scales the whole application window and screen including text and graphics. But we don't need graphics bigger and chunkier. We just need the text to be independently sizable in relation to the graphics. And this is not the problem that resolution independence seeks to solve.

Make it 200 quid for anyone that solves this! Who will join me in the pledge?

A side note: Consider this: Nearly everybody I know is frustrated with font sizes in pro apps. Why is it so difficult to gather people's opinions into a big long list and present it to Apple? Why does the Internet not provide us with such easy to use tools? We have so far to go! ;-/

Cheers Daniel

Aperture Font Sizes.... 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 14:55 GMT

Happy

Thanks for the comments guys. I take the point about the drab colour scheme being useful for colour matching, etc. All the same, my retinas suffer from 'rod fatigue' after staring at Aperture for too long.... ;-)

As regards altering the default font size in the pro apps, I've just been browsing the relevant code in the ProKit framework. I had hoped there would be some hidden defaults setting which would do the job, but the relevant point size is apparently "hard-wired" into the ProKit binary. I'm loathe to patch the binary, but keep upping the ante in the Pledge Fund, and I might go for it..... ;-))

Dave