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Oops 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 14:34 GMT

Flame

I was going to post that it was working fine - but then it crashed my machine....

Ah well, the bit I saw looked good.

Briefly.

Ubuntu is cooler! 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 15:07 GMT

Linux

When you try to run Photosynth in Firefox on Ubuntu the following message is shown:

"Unfortunately, we're not cool enough to run on your OS yet. We really wish we had a version of Photosynth that worked cross platform, but for now it only runs on Windows."

Blimey, Microsoft actually admitting that Linux is cooler than Windows. Whatever next?!

Not a promising start 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 16:12 GMT

I get:

" Oops... the leaves fell off and we're temporarily unable to load that page.

If you go back a page and try again it may work just fine. If not, check out our support site for more information. "

If I try to click on anything picturey.

You might have thought a bit of testing may have been performed before being given over to the public. Not that they ever seem to bother testing their OSes so not sure why I expected to view a working/usable product.

Loving the comedy error messages 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 17:35 GMT

Couldn't someone working on those have had a crack at sorting the underlying issues though? Also, I have to say:

"Microsoft Live Labs developed the technology in tandem with researchers at the University of Washington over the past two years" - i.e. MS bankrolled University of Washington research.

"The viewer uses technology from Seadragon, a company bought by Microsoft in February 2006." - i.e. The viewer *is* technology from Seadragon.

Nice work 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 17:40 GMT

I'm glad to see they got Photosynth out the door. Glitches are typical when research hackers try to turn their code into a product. It's hard for academics to let go and allow the systems management people to take over. They really should release an SDK someday.

There's a nice TED talk about this technology here: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/blaise_aguera_y_arcas_demos_photosynth.html

@Ubuntu is cooler 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 17:40 GMT

Why would you try with Ubuntu when it was clear it was Windows only? To see in between addressing capacity issues they whipped up a Linux friendly version?

3D 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 17:42 GMT

Not sure what definition of "3D" you're using, but this ain't it.

This is a standard "2D" (x-axis + y-axis) panorama with zooming capability.

"3D" = x-axis + y-axis + z-axis = width + height + depth (not zoom)

Find out more about "3D" on the web:

http://www.web3d.org/

http://www.parallelgraphics.com/products/cortona/

SeaDragon and Photosynth 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 17:43 GMT

By the way, the database system, Sea Dragon, was purchased. I'm not sure what role it plays, but the actual Photosynth project was in-house (Rick Szeliski and his cohorts at Live Labs and MS Research). They did one of the most capable image panarama stitchers some years ago (the only reason to buy Microsoft Digital Image Suite). There are a lot of free stitchers out there, I've used them all, but nobody can even hold a candle to Szeliski's algorithms.

Falling yes, as it is certainly Not Flying 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 18:25 GMT

Dead Vulture

It seems to have died completely now (19:00 GMT). I tried to connect to it from Linux (*before* I saw that it was MS only) and received the following message:

"Server Error

The following error occurred:

[code=SERVER_RESPONSE_RESET] The server response could not be read because of an error. Contact your system administrator.

Please contact the administrator."

Upon seeing the MS only message I checked from an XP machine, only to receive the same message. As I am able to happily browse the rest of the Internet, I reckon it is safe to ignore the message about contacting my system administrator (which I also happen to be, incidentally, but that is besides the point).

Then again, maybe it objected to my Linux proxy server?

Dead vulture, as it seems to be a dead duck (for the moment, at least).

Flash, but windows only ? 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 18:29 GMT

What sort of half arsed Flash is this then ? Not the normal one, obviously...

2.5D 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 19:37 GMT

Gates Halo

@James Butler

It does actually generate a rather impressive 3D point cloud from the 2D images, logical progression is to stitch the outsides of those into a convex hull and apply an average of the photographs as a texture. The hard problem is already solved.

It does not use Flash! 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 22:13 GMT

Flame

Get facts right!

This is so cooooool 

Posted Thursday 21st August 2008 22:15 GMT

Gates Halo

The coolest technology I have seen for a long time... Well impressed!

it dozent run on faiarfoks and lainaks 

Posted Friday 22nd August 2008 06:50 GMT

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i traid very hard but it dozent run i gets only de error messajis. so for de taim biing, i fotostich wiz mah cannon camrah or de gimpz

It does run in VMWare 

Posted Friday 22nd August 2008 07:25 GMT

Happy

On the installation page it says that it will not work in VMWare Fusion or Parallels on a Mac. I'm amazed they even spared the pixels to say that at all, but it's not true anyway. If you enable DirectX 9 support in VMWare 2 beta, it works just fine. I was also surprised to find that it worked just fine in Firefox too.

@Ubuntu is cooler 

Posted Friday 22nd August 2008 07:25 GMT

Gates Horns

[quote]

Unfortunately, we're not cool enough to run on your OS yet. We really wish we had a version of Photosynth that worked cross platform, but for now it only runs on Windows.

Trust us, as soon as we have a Mac version ready, it will be up and available on our site.

[/quote]

I think you'll find they were referring to Mac. Remember, linux doesnt exist in their eyes unless it comes to patent infringment.

@This is so cooooool 

Posted Friday 22nd August 2008 09:11 GMT

So cool in fact that they used it on last weeks CSI:NY

Add your own sarcasm if you wish.

Me like.

Ugh 

Posted Friday 22nd August 2008 09:59 GMT

I dunno about the rest of you, but that thing makes me feel quite motion sick after a while.

Just tried it 

Posted Friday 22nd August 2008 10:49 GMT

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and to be honest, it's a bit shit...

Flash over silverlight: Smart! 

Posted Friday 22nd August 2008 12:14 GMT

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For once the micros**t marketing department made a smart choice --- if they'd gone with silverlight and the thing crashed and flamed as webby2.0 apps are bound to, this would have cost them even more silverlight-interest --- those are paying customers, as opposed to these photostitchers.

Even if silverlight were innocent of flaming death, it would still be suspect.

Used in Virtual Earth 

Posted Friday 22nd August 2008 13:06 GMT

The 3D view in maps.live.com (Virtual Earth, the equivalent of Google Earth), uses the same method to show the 3D location of "Bird's Eye View" pictures - aerial photos taken at an angle so that you can see the sides of buildings.

(And it's an interesting alternative to Google Street View.)

LOL 

Posted Friday 22nd August 2008 17:55 GMT

Stop

"Unfortunately, we're not cool enough to run on your OS yet. We really wish we had a version of Photosynth that worked cross platform, but for now it only runs on Windows.

Trust us, as soon as we have a Mac version ready, it will be up and available on our site."

I'm on a Compaq nc600 lappy running Windows 2000 pro.

I love Microsoft...LOL

uh hoes? 

Posted Monday 25th August 2008 17:23 GMT

Paris Hilton

oh noes! no cross platform compatibility? i wish someone would bitch slap developers who release software and all that jazz before realizing Mac OS and Linux are indeed out there and being used. OOhh how tempting it is to post a large pile of doggy poop through their office letterbox just to show how "happy" they make me.

Paris Hilton because apparently the world of technology confuses them, just as shoe laces confuse her.